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Steve Scalise on Mike Johnson’s GOP and why his presidential bid failed


In 2014, Scalise was quickly catapulted to the position of GOP Whip after Eric Cantor’s defeat in a shocking upset that reorganized the House GOP.

In 2017, Scalise was nearly killed by a crazy shooter while practicing baseball for the annual Congressional Game.

Earlier this year, Scalise was diagnosed with blood cancer for which he is receiving chemotherapy.

And in October, when Kevin McCarthy was ousted, Scalise, the number two Republican, thought it was only natural that his colleagues would want him to move up the ranks.

But they didn’t – at least not enough. Scalise won an internal conference vote, but he abandoned his quest for speaker before it even came up for a final vote.

So what happened?

Well, there was her toxic relationship with Kevin McCarthy.

The stab in the back of a colleague from Louisiana.

The Trump factor.

And then, at the end of the process, the man promoted by the Republicans – Scalise’s new boss – was Mike Johnson, a junior member of his home state’s delegation.

In this episode of Deep Dive, host and Playbook co-author Ryan Lizza interviews Steve Scalise about all this and more, including impeachment, why he’ll vote against expelling George Santos, and how Mike Johnson is trying to ‘use immigration to tame the most radical when it comes to the spending showdown with Joe Biden.


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