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Pramila Jayapal Says on Reconciliation and Infrastructure Bills Democrats “Will Get It” – “The Takeout”

Progressive Caucus Chair Pramila Jayapal argues that child care, health insurance expansion, prescription drug price limits, climate change, immigration and affordable housing will remain in the limelight. lean social spending bill being negotiated between the White House and Congressional Democrats.

But she concedes that some programs may need to be changed.

“Those five priorities have yet to be in any final bill,” Jayapal told CBS News Washington chief correspondent Major Garrett in this week’s episode of “The Takeout” podcast. She added: “You can dramatically reduce the price tag by funding some of these programs for a shorter period of time.”

Previously, the measure was expected to cost $ 3.5 trillion, but that number was reduced at the insistence of moderate Senators Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema. Support from the two moderates is needed to pass the Senate social spending bill, while progressives delay passage of the bipartisan infrastructure bill in the House until agreement is reached on the draft law on social spending.

Recently, Manchin and Sinema have faced progressive protesters in public. Jayapal, however, played down any quarrels within the party.

“It’s, as you know, a bit of a messy process. I don’t think we’re in disarray. I don’t think we’re adrift. I think we’re about to deliver, and it will happen. We will get there, ”Jayapal said of the negotiations. “We all play on the same team.

Jayapal said she was open to ways to test social spending programs and saw common ground between moderates and progressives if they could agree on an approach.

“A lot of the ways we’ve done this have meant that the testing in this country has been really ineffective. There are… simple ways to make sure the richest people don’t benefit,” Jayapal said, adding that she hopes that both Manchin and Sinema will support these proposals, given that the policies of the US bailout, adopted earlier this year, were also means-tested.

Filing has also been a topic of discussion on Capitol Hill, as Jayapal and other progressives pushed to abolish the Senate closing rule, which requires 60 votes to end debate on the topics and move on to a final vote. Jayapal said removing the filibuster serves the best interests of bipartisanship and democracy.

“My belief is that in fact, if you want bipartisanship, what you should do is remove the filibuster, allow the three, four or five Republicans to have the power that they should have in one. Senate divided, instead of giving all power to 40 Republicans who will never agree on anything Democrats want to do, ”Jayapal said.

Strong points

  • Negotiations on the “social infrastructure” bill: “Well, it’s not [Progressives]. It’s the two senators [Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema] that we are waiting for. And I would say I’ve heard that things are moving, but they are moving slower, maybe, than some of us would like to see. “
  • Include progressive priorities in a smaller “social infrastructure” bill: “We believe that you can significantly reduce the price tag by funding some of these programs over a shorter period of time. Make sure the benefits are universal and flow to people immediately, not three or five years from now, but something people can feel immediately. “
  • What the adoption of the infrastructure bill and the reconciliation bill mean: “I believe we have to embrace these two things if we are to keep our majorities because the voters delivered the House, the Senate and the White House to us on promises. And we had an incredible turnout from black, brown, young people, indigenous, poor. We have states we never thought we had, like Georgia and Arizona, and if we want to keep people engaged in our democracy, then the ultimate voter is the young person or the person who would generally vote Democrat but they’re disappointed that the Democrats are going to fight for them. So let’s fight for them. Let’s take these two bills, and then I believe we’ll keep the House, the Senate, and the White House.
  • Perspectives on Manchin and Sinema within the party: “They are Democrats, they are part of the same team. They’re in the, you know, the Democratic Party. We all play on the same team. as much as our frustrations might be there with each other. “
  • Congressional Republicans’ continued support for Trump after January 6: “You even see institutionalists like Chuck Grassley leaving and people who criticized Trump and blamed Trump for January 6 now share the stage with him because they made a cold political calculation that their continued power depends on Trump , and so they don’t ‘care about democracy, and they’re going to support the Big Lie. “

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