Bungie Is Likely Developing ‘Destiny 3,’ Codename ‘Payback’

Bungie exceeded most expectations with a Final Shape livestream on Tuesday, showcasing a new Prismatic subclass combining elements and an exotic suit to match. Plus the first entirely new enemy race to the game in a decade, the Dread.

But the video opened with Luke Smith promising more Destiny 2 after Final Shape and bigger plans for Destiny as a franchise after that, despite recent issues at Bungie. And we have information on what that might look like.

While I’m not inclined to put much stock in throwaway Reddit accounts, this one is a bit of a different situation. As Destiny Bulletin first reported, back in February, an account posted something extraordinary on the Destiny2leaks subreddit. They revealed something called Prism, which ended up being the Prismatic subclass. The comment, still relevant today:

“Anyone here know if the prism ever leaked?” Since there hasn’t been an answer yet, I guess I’ll divulge this: Bungie is working on a system called Prism that will allow players to mix and match abilities from different subclasses. This is one of the things we are working on during the delay. Imagine throwing a flash grenade while in the sun, or devouring and rampaging with Stormcaller.

Again, this was the first time this was reported, and it ended up being one of the biggest reveals of the showcase. So if that were accurate, it stands to reason that the second half of the comment could be accurate as well. This is Destiny 3:

“Destiny 3 is (was? I don’t know) in development under the code name payback. One of the big changes for Destiny 3 is (it was, again, I don’t know) that classes no longer exist and allow any character to specialize in any ability, because lore-wise, there’s no reason why you couldn’t do it (hunters were explicitly taught to blink from warlocks and blink). is not linked to a single element, hence the logic).

So, the idea here is that Prismatic is a setup that allows Destiny 3 to evolve the game in a major way by eliminating subclasses altogether and allowing players to mix and match their powers more. Although I wonder if Prismatic was built because of the delay, they would already base the entire next game around it. The poster also doesn’t seem 100% sure that Destiny 3 is always in development, but I have to imagine that is the case.

Another open question would be timing. Would this be something that would only appear one fall during what would normally be an expansion window after a bunch of annual episodes, or would Destiny 2 have to stop producing content for a while so that the vast majority of the studio can work on this? (And let’s not forget Marathon). There’s no information about that here, although stopping content production means stopping revenue, which I’m not sure new owners Sony want to happen. While I think the entire Destiny community agrees that yes, at some point a true Destiny 3 will have to come at some point if the series is to survive. My prediction was always that this wouldn’t happen until the next generation of consoles, and with this news, I’m still sticking to that from a timing standpoint.

So, some interesting stuff, especially on removing subclasses. I’ll dig around to see if I can find anything else about this.

Update: This account is back and posting again, this time about the codename itself, Payback:

“I have seen some speculation about this and I want to set the record straight. Codename Payback doesn’t mean we lose in Final Shape, or after 3 episodes (although, TBC, I don’t know anything more than any of you about the episodes). D3’s internal codename does not refer to any story events. Codename Payback instead refers to Bungie getting revenge on itself by creating something it hopes everyone will like. I don’t know if there are plans for Destiny 2 items to carry over to Destiny 3.”

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